how to create machine graphic using EC 2009

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how to create machine graphic using EC 2009

Postby LosAngeles » Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:58 pm

Hello, guys! Just asking if anyone of you have seen any reference information on how to create machine graphic using EC 2009? I have been trying to set up machine parts. I would like to arrange them in a tree design and the axis movement functioning, as required. The problem is that when I save or compile and choose the advanced code generator, its results has some parts positioned wrong on the display. :cry: :cry:

The tool is at the right position - and in spite of the spindle being in the wrong position, and I use the simulator, the tool elements are correlated to the model. Although other machine elements are hanging in the left part of the field, and there is a contact of the tool with the part, I still get this problem. :( :(

I have tried to modify defined axis origins and any other origin of any component that is wrongly displayed, but I cannot get the expected results. I have also looked for the referencing of the defined element or axis, but I am coming up empty. :cry: :cry: :cry:

I have even tried to guess that maybe it is a certain location on at the past defined elements but still it cannot provide me with the correct things. :evil: :evil:

I believe there is a fast available reference guideline about it. I am producing the model for DMG DMU50 eco and five-axis mill machine. I am now programming with a Siemens ShopMill, but I am anxious about the EdgeCAM post.

There is no full five-axis concurrent motion on the eco model, the fourth and fifth are only the location axes. I will greatly appreciate anyone who is willing to share with me the graphic or post model like that please, it I know it is hard to assist since you have put much efforts and a lot of time too. :|

I will greatly acknowledge any advice and suggestions from you people! Thanks. I am counting on you all...

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Re: how to create machine graphic using EC 2009

Postby L297580 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 7:19 pm

Hi! I believe I may have some assistance for you, but please, would you hook up the test files in your post?

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Re: how to create machine graphic using EC 2009

Postby LosAngeles » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:14 pm

L297580 wrote:Hi! I believe I may have some assistance for you, but please, would you hook up the test files in your post?


Tytyty

Thanks a lot for going through.

I have just started, but that is my test file, it is not something big, only the fundamental shapes that I will hook up with much better models when the kinematics are okay. From my first post, I have seen a single odd thing. Every moment I have re-start the code wizard file the origin of the B-Axis has moved to a location of X0, Y4.50000, Z9.0000 and, therefore, I have to re-adjust to X0, Y0, Z0 to provide right table movement of B-Axis. :idea: :idea:

However, despite saving and compiling it many times when the origin of B-Axis is 0,0,0 it moves back to its original position when I restart. There is no setting yet for the X-Y-Z-B that is the values of the actual movement. Those minimal details are simply adjustable when the general movements have been proven, and I use the Part Modeler exports instead of disk and plate elements. :cry:

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Re: how to create machine graphic using EC 2009

Postby Nightcoeur » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:19 pm

hello! Want to know the type of the version you are using. Do you use the R2 or the 2009R1? I want to know also if you are accessed to 2010R1 or an advanced R2. Please inform me.

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Re: how to create machine graphic using EC 2009

Postby LosAngeles » Mon Jun 15, 2015 9:31 pm

8-) Hello too! I have the 2009R2. I have been using it but it is insignificant with me. I think these five-axis machines are outdated since they are older than the EC2009 and the posts.

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Re: how to create machine graphic using EC 2009

Postby e80euj2229 » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:31 pm

I have seen your post and the B axis is likely to be related to the plate of your B axis basing some reasons. I therefore, convert the origin values at the plate of the B axis then the values of B axis remained at 0,0,0. I further made the b axis plate diameter to be .001 and redraw another different at the part modeler.

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Re: how to create machine graphic using EC 2009

Postby LosAngeles » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:37 pm

Thanks e80euj2229 for that solution. I have got rid the plate graphics, and I will replace it with a model. I have a problem with the spindle. It is uncorrelated with tool axis whenever the simulator is run using the code generator. Did you observe something odd on that axis? :D :D :D :D

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Re: how to create machine graphic using EC 2009

Postby blerberque » Tue Jun 16, 2015 8:55 pm

Please elaborate to me on how to make the jaws come out good. Is there a way to bolt this down to a sacrificial plate or something? On the other hand, will the jaws line everything up perfect?

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Re: how to create machine graphic using EC 2009

Postby falanyani » Tue Jun 16, 2015 9:08 pm

The tool is not properly located on the top machine list setup tab “machine” origins requires to be converted to requires to x -13. Y-5. Z18 from your old origin x0 y4. Z9 and then you have to change B axis origin to x 13. Y0 z-9 and the c axis to x13. Y-3. Z-9. Also, the location of the initial component will then be x0 y9. Z0. Then z axis origin is changed to x0 y0 z-9. The final primary component position new origin will be x 13. Y-3. Z-11. You can convert the c axis limits to maximum of 99999999 and minimum value of -999999999
Just look at this and try it if it can work for your system.

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Re: how to create machine graphic using EC 2009

Postby indolentpotato » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:43 pm

This is one of those topics that I am not even ashamed to say I don't know anything about. All these figures are making my eyes watery.


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